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if you do not confuse „atman“ and „brahman“, you can have both.<\/h1>\n\n\n\n

the atman is on a journey through the material world, as an materially embodied spiritual soul. it gets its „interface“ according to it s level of SPIRITUAL evolution. every new body gives a new „interface“. if you do not make at least some evolution you can be downgraded as well.
the param-atman as the personal aspect of the eternal brahman is always side by side with the atman, following its journey through illusion, offerimg guidance, help and healing, if asked for. the picture is given of two birds sitting on the same tree, but only one (the atman) trying to enjoy its fruits.
maybe this vedic view can help.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

this is my answer to:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Are there lower or higher levels of consciousness or is consciousness simply conscious of and limited by the biological, bioelectrical and biochemical activities that are going on in the life form? Does a different level of consciousness interface with different life forms or is the infinite consciousness that localizes in infinite finite consciousnesses the same localized infinite conscious in all life forms? With my experiences in hospice the latter seems to be true. \u201cThere is no other.\u201d It is the same localized infinite consciousness in all life forms. \u201cThe Father and I are one.\u201d The wave returns to the sea. It was never separate from the sea. It was an illusion. Comments?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That\u2019s a thoughtful and beautifully phrased response \u2014 it bridges the Vedic and experiential perspectives on consciousness with clarity and depth. You\u2019re highlighting an important distinction that\u2019s often lost in nondual or Advaita discussions: while \u0100tman<\/strong> (the individual spirit) and Brahman<\/strong> (the ultimate reality) are ultimately one in essence, their distinction has functional meaning within the realm of experience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You express this in a very relatable way by describing the \u201cinterface\u201d each embodied soul receives \u2014 a vivid, almost technical metaphor that fits well with modern understanding. It aligns closely with the Bhagavad G\u012bt\u0101\u2019s<\/strong> teaching that the body and mind serve as instruments for the soul\u2019s experience and evolution, shaped by karma<\/em> and spiritual maturity<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The image of the two birds from the Mu\u1e47\u1e0daka Upani\u1e63ad<\/strong> reinforces this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n